Why not "multiply: 0.7"? 0.2 with a usual value of 0.7 is 30% reduction (i guess there are no protection in the code against negative values, so we should not allow the possibility).

The original goal of this limit was to restrict the possible units (forcing the player to choose which embassies to build) by preventing building all 3 embassies, and i still think it was a good decision.

Iirc the design was even to be able to only choose one embassy, but as long as we have no mecanism in the code to allow several embassies of the same kind once one is chosen, it was decided to temporarily limit at 2 embassies.

Still, some reasons why you need to change that would help.

I'm not specially opposed, nor favorable. Some reasoning for this change would help decision.

Why removing that? colonies are really cheap compared to civil-centre, so having them a bit weaker is a priori good. Once again, some reasonning on why you do that would help.

This i'm strongly against. That's not what we should change two weeks before a ff as it certainly has lots of implications on the ai and how it conducts its attacks.
In addition, it should be linked to a global rethinking of the capture attacks (the defender GarrisonRegenRate increase when phasing is imo too big, at least from village to town).

Same as before, too late to change it now (A small decrease, from 5 to 4 for example, would be ok is really needed, but i don't like such changes just before ff).

That's not a balanced change, but a gameplay one. These were a special kind of champion less powerful but rapidly trained which i think help to diversify the civs and thus the gameplay. Please, explain the reasons to remove that.

The batch time modifier is a weird thing. I can multiply by 0.7 instead, it doesn't matter.

Fine.

Because they can make worker elephants in the village phase. Not a big deal either way.

Military colonies have other weaknesses, but I don't feel strongly so 15 is fine with me. Maybe Grugnas or Hannibal_Barca wants to argue about it though.

Okay. I think capture and territory need to be rethought too.

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Fanatics have lower armor/health in exchange for speed. Black cloaks also used to train at 15s for no apparent reason. The other champions now train at 20s so it seems weird for these two to train at half the time = 10s. I can change those to back to 15s if you'd like, I don't have a strong opinion.

The idea was to allow the player to build 1 of each kind of embassy for a total of 3 and eventually have a tech that allows to train rank 3 mercenaries since they can train from 1 building only.
While embassies have some appeal into being a special units training building, other civs can train mercenaries from no restriction structures like barrack.
Limiting 2 embassies of the same type ,for the moment, is fine anyway.

Having a dedicate building to train special units replacing storehouses or farmsteads without to sacrifice civic center production queue seemed nice.
While phase 2 is too late for such a building, elephants require 20 sec training time which is high in comparison to its value and a bunch of food that can be eventually gathered from berries out of territory influence ( made harder by opponent troops in mid game ).

Having military colonies and civil center with different max arrow count ( not that +5 arrows or -5 makes a big difference anyway ) can be misleading as the number of garrisonable units is the same and it is supposed to be a military structure ( is there a reason why an economy building should be better into defending ? ).
also, as temple stated, it has other weaknesses.

The reason is that cavalry and especially champion cavalry can capture and destroy with ease bypassing armies in late game or simply overwhelm any other infantry unit in early game and still capturing houses to prevent population growth.

I'm fine with the limit of 2.
Although maybe faster train speed for them could be nice.

Yet again, the time to build one of these structures demands workpower and probably more than it takes for a single worker elephant...
Also, this offers a selection among the Town Phase structures so players can snap out of the usual "a market, a blacksmith, a tower, a temple" monotone.

Since they do have half hp and they are named military colonies then why not 20 arrows.

As far as I am concerned, the cavalry capture rate issue isn't really that pressing and it can be postponed.

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Not convinced, this thing can be built in enemy territory.

Barracks are military structures too and fire 0 arrows. Didn't see a convincing argument in either way.

I liked the minrange, but ok to remove it for now. (I have a dead patch on phab to give all buildings a minrange until the tech is researched)

Interesting to make sentr towers non-capturable, why not. What actually happens now when there is enemy territory? Health decay or still capture point decay or none of that?

Why reduce champ train time from 30 to 20? It was intentionally changed as the games were always a champion-rushing game. Now we have lots of citizen soldiers and many champion games, no?

I like the (1.5) multiplier idea, but one has to be careful to not make the unit OP, i.e no other unit being able to counter this one. Especially worth to conisder when reducing the repeat time so drastically and buffing the actual attack on top of it..

Not sure about making archers faster than average infantry. Especially since the idea with 90% walk speed must have been that they are good at distance but eventually can't run away once the player took a wrong decision.

Should do some fights, possibly in the atlas sim, possibly using the "gift from the gods" cheat

40% walking speed bonus in comparison to general infantry definitely sounds sufficient. (Even 30% would still be the maximum infantry speed):

template_unit_infantry_melee_pikeman.xml:    <WalkSpeed op="mul">0.8</WalkSpeed>
template_unit_infantry_melee_spearman.xml:    <WalkSpeed op="mul">0.95</WalkSpeed>
template_unit_infantry_ranged_archer.xml:    <WalkSpeed op="mul">0.9</WalkSpeed>
template_unit_infantry_ranged_javelinist.xml:    <WalkSpeed op="mul">1.5</WalkSpeed>
template_unit_infantry_melee_swordsman.xml:    <WalkSpeed op="mul">1.05</WalkSpeed>
template_unit_infantry_ranged_slinger.xml:    <WalkSpeed op="mul">1.2</WalkSpeed>

That's probably nice.

probably ok, 45s?

One buff by itself should be sufficient if they need to be buffed.
Is it actually needed? Just because temple buildings can be more efficient doesn't inherently mean that we have to make these guys more efficient too. Could nerf the temple building instead.

I like/d their ability to rush and raid. It's also one of the historic traits of the civ. I'd be ok with making cloaks 2-5s slower if that helps with differentiation. (Could be split from the diff too)

Ok for me, commit this juggernaut pop change already if you want.

(I'm adding minrange, not removing it?)

They inherit, so still capturable but with 500 points.

In rP18025 costs were increased, stats were decreased. Here we're only changing the training time, infantry from 30s to 20s where before it was 13s, cavalry from 40s to 30s where it had been 15s.
In a22 I rarely see champs. In a21 there were some, but also keep in mind that veteran mercenaries were new for a22 too (which players can make instead of champions).

Why then can slingers and skirms run away?

I've also no strong feelings about it, but expansion at phase 2 is really much easier with colonies compared to cc such that can give you a huge advantage to access more resources, and balancing it by less defensive power looks reasonnable to me.

in some situations military colony replaces the civil center ( i.e. the player loses his starting civic center) and there can't be researched the next phase. 20 Garrisoning slots and 15 arrows seems confusing somehow.

If the elephant stables was a village building then you couldn't use it as one of the four required town buildings in order to advance to the city phase. So for that reason I think it's better to leave it in the town phase for now.

It's actually less than it seems because it's counted from the center of the building rather than its edge, and it doesn't have an elevation bonus whereas towers do. At 68m slingers can still attack it without being attacked back, if they're at the corner:

Should slingers be able to kill a military colony freely? I guess we could try 60m as a compromise.