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[gameplay] differentiate African and Indian war elephants
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Authored by Nescio on Jul 3 2020, 8:47 PM.

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rP23804: [gameplay-a24] differentiate African and Indian war elephants because of their…
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In Antiquity there were three separate populations used for (war) elephants:

  • Indian: Indians, Persians, Macedonians, Seleucids;
  • Ethiopian: Ptolemies, Kushites, Axumites;
  • Libyan: Carthaginians, Numidians, Romans.

Ancient historians make it clear African (Ethiopian and Libyan) war elephants were no match for their Asian (Indian) counterparts (Polybius 5.84, Livy 37.39). To reflect that, and to differentiate civilizations in game, this patch gives:

  • maur, pers, sele champion elephants +10% resource costs, training time, health, and attack damage;
  • cart, kush, ptol champion elephants −10% resource costs, training time, health, and attack damage.

This makes makes the former 22% more costly and powerful (1.1 / 0.9).

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Check for mistakes, agree with the idea, approve of the suggested values.

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Nescio created this revision.Jul 3 2020, 8:47 PM
Owners added a subscriber: Restricted Owners Package.Jul 3 2020, 8:47 PM
Vulcan added a comment.Jul 3 2020, 8:52 PM

Successful build - Chance fights ever on the side of the prudent.

Link to build: https://jenkins.wildfiregames.com/job/docker-differential/2578/display/redirect

Harbormaster completed remote builds in B12292: Diff 12538.Jul 3 2020, 9:06 PM
Lionkanzen added a subscriber: Lionkanzen.Jul 4 2020, 10:39 AM
Feldfeld accepted this revision.Jul 4 2020, 1:09 PM
Feldfeld added subscribers: borg-, Feldfeld.

I also wondered why they were the same when I started the game. The values look good to me. Still ping @borg-

This revision is now accepted and ready to land.Jul 4 2020, 1:09 PM
borg- added a comment.Jul 4 2020, 2:34 PM
In D2861#122593, @Feldfeld wrote:

I also wondered why they were the same when I started the game. The values look good to me. Still ping @borg-

Ohh, I would make similar patch today.
Yes, i agree with propose and values.

Stan added a subscriber: Stan.Jul 4 2020, 2:39 PM

Please accept the patch then :)

borg- added a comment.Jul 4 2020, 2:40 PM
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borg- accepted this revision.Jul 4 2020, 2:41 PM
In D2861#122604, @Stan wrote:

Please accept the patch then :)

Oh yes, Sorry.

Stan added a comment.Jul 4 2020, 3:50 PM

@Nescio shouldn't this affect heroes somehow too? Same question for the worker elephant

Nescio added a comment.Jul 4 2020, 4:33 PM

@Nescio shouldn't this affect heroes somehow too? Same question for the worker elephant

Only Mauryas have worker elephants and elephant archers. They're unlikely to be added to other civilizations, therefore I think it's fine.
For elephant heroes what is importance is the hero, not the elephant. I preferred not to touch them here, there are already a few patches discussing hero auras and stats.

Stan added a comment.Jul 4 2020, 4:43 PM

Fair enough

Closed by commit rP23804: [gameplay-a24] differentiate African and Indian war elephants because of their… (authored by Stan). · Explain WhyJul 4 2020, 8:15 PM
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Nescio mentioned this in D2862: [gameplay] introduce maur elephant civ bonus..Jul 4 2020, 8:56 PM

That's quick, thanks! Committed just under 24 hours since it was created, that might be a new record for a gameplay patch! (I'm not complaining.)
Here's a follow-up: D2862.

Imarok awarded a token.Jul 5 2020, 10:46 AM

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ps/trunk/binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/templates/units/cart_champion_elephant.xml

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ps/trunk/binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/templates/units/kush_champion_elephant.xml

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ps/trunk/binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/templates/units/maur_champion_elephant.xml

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ps/trunk/binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/templates/units/pers_champion_elephant.xml

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ps/trunk/binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/templates/units/ptol_champion_elephant.xml

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ps/trunk/binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/templates/units/sele_champion_elephant.xml

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