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I don't particularly like this change. Most games multiplayer games have "no wonder" rules. I also don't think that a combat technology makes sense in this structure, I prefer it in Fortress.

To me, "Will to Fight" always felt as the super late game tech par excellence, meant for the finishing blow. If having a temporal effect (about 3-5 minutes), I could even imagine it being more powerful (additional defensive bonuses), giving you a boost similar to a Titan in Age of Mythology or the Ragnarok God power (turning all your gatherers into strong fighters).
As the wonder fulfills a similar role, @Nescio's proposal sounds reasonable to me.

However I can also understand @borg-'s reasoning. Also, unit training has been shifted away from the fortress, so it would be nice to have something to fill that void. So I suggest the fortress for a permanent combat tech and the wonder for a temporal "super boost" tech.

If that sounds too complicated, have a defensive super late game tech (e.g. +2 resistance for all units) in the fortress and the offensive "Will to Fight" tech in the wonder. Actually that sounds quite reasonable to me on a second thought, to balance/counter the offensive potential of "Will to Fight" with a roughly equal defensive boost.

Age of Mythology is a nice game, but temporary effects like god powers are not (yet) possible in 0 A.D., to the best of my knowledge: auras last as long as their entities last.
As for your last point, +2 resistance, +25% health, +25% attack damage, and −20% attack time are more or less equivalent: they allow your troops to inflict a quarter more damage before they're killed. I'm unsure how another one would make gameplay more interesting, but if other people want it too, fine by me; technologies are easy to add or remove.

In D3318#150418, @Nescio wrote:

Age of Mythology is a nice game, but temporary effects like god powers are not (yet) possible in 0 A.D., to the best of my knowledge: auras last as long as their entities last.

True, that would clearly be outside the scope of this patch and require one of the core developers... Consider it as brainstorming

In D3318#150418, @Nescio wrote:

As for your last point, +2 resistance, +25% health, +25% attack damage, and −20% attack time are more or less equivalent: they allow your troops to inflict a quarter more damage before they're killed. I'm unsure how another one would make gameplay more interesting, but if other people want it too, fine by me; technologies are easy to add or remove.

Yes and no. I have no recent experience of playing/observing the game, let alone knowing the details of the current meta. However, combat is rarely set in "laboratory conditions", but is asymmetric in one way or another where offensive power and defensive power will interact differently with the specific circumstances. E.g. I could imagine that in the context of a turtling strategy with a considerable amount of supporting buildings, a defensive boost would allow your troops to delay the pressure of the storming troops giving you the deciding edge. Alternatively, if you want to quickly destroy a few buildings or siege engines, the offensive power will do the job better than the defensive...

In D3318#147366, @borg- wrote:

Most games multiplayer games have "no wonder" rules.

Obviously out of scope, but can you elaborate why they have this rule?

I don't agree with the constant nerfing of the Fortress.

In D3318#160223, @wowgetoffyourcellphone wrote:

I don't agree with the constant nerfing of the Fortress.

I think the primary function of the fortress shouldn't be unit training or technologies but defensive protection. In fact I would like to see bigger, stronger and more expensive fortresses...

I don't like this proposal either. Wonders are super expensive to build. WTF is also super expensive to research. This would mean that it would be very, very difficult to ever get enough res to research WTF (even with the lower cost it would still be cost prohibitive).

As it is now, most players have to make the decision of whether they should build a wonder to get extra pop or to research WTF to improve their troops efficacy. These are two very different strategies that makes games more interesting.

I think the main problem is that wonders should be rather slow to build, which kinda defeats the purpose of storing technologies & other things there (this is also true of the pop wonder).
Our wonders are very much the Age of Empires classic wonder -> build to win the game, or completely useless.

I don't think it works to try and give them other purposes at the moment. I prefer this at the fortress too.