After D3384.
Seleucids can train infantry champions in the barracks at no cost. This patch adds a value of 600 food and reserach time 60 (standard value).
Differential D3407
[gameplay] Add food/researchtime cost to reformed_army / traditional_army borg- on Jan 18 2021, 3:02 AM. Authored by
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Event TimelineComment Actions As I wrote in the summary of D3384:
Unlocking both champion cavalry and chariots already costs 1200 food together and having to choose by excluding one is already a penalty. Comment Actions I don't know if it seems fair to me, anyway I think time must be incuded, avoiding immediate p3 spam. Comment Actions Actually I'd prefer a resource cost (e.g. 400 metal) and 0 time over 0 resource cost but with a time. Comment Actions What if the seleucidas bonus was something related to the champions? We could remove unlock technologies for all champions. In contrast, increase your training time a little, what do you think? Is there anything historical about it? Comment Actions They already have the “Parade of Daphne” technology, though, reducing champion training time by 20%. Comment Actions
Persa also has two champion cavalry technologies totaling 1200 food and +300 stone, +200 metal + build time (apadana), to train champion infantry that is limited to just one, so this logic cannot be applied. I'm really scared to leave it at that, spam is really possible and can ruin an entire alpha, like a22. Comment Actions If the question is between having a cost or not for this tech, I'm fine with anything I guess. I'd also have been fine with keeping training in fortress. Comment Actions For me it still doesn't make sense the cost 0 and time 0. Comment Actions @real_tabasco_sauce @chrstgtr any opinion about this? Because only for seleucides is it different? If it stays as it is, then it should go to civ bonus? Comment Actions I suppose it might make sense to add +20% train time and so the unique upgrade to restores this train time to default. I would be open minded to using a different tradeoff for not needing unlocks if someone else has a better idea. Comment Actions I'm fine with it as it. I haven't seen a sele champ spam strategy effectively used. It makes sele somewhat unique. What do you mean a civ bonus? If you think there needs to be a res or time cost then I'm fine with that too--I honestly had not noticed that this existed before now. |