[gameplay] incentivize farming away from the CC
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Authored by marder on Feb 2 2022, 9:03 AM.

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What the title says. It is for many people very immersion breaking when fields are build right in the center of the city on stone tiling.
See the whole thread here:
https://wildfiregames.com/forum/topic/38015-move-fields-away-from-the-cc/

So the idea here is to have fields that can be build anywhere (including neutral territory), but farmsteads who must be at least 90 meter away from the CC.
To compensate for that, the farmsteads provide a 30% farming rate increase around them and they are also buildable in neutral territory.
So strong city/ weak countryside if you will.

Why 90 meter you may ask? See here:

note that this still allows you to place defensive structures:

Also see note how this makes it easy to get berries outside of your territory for the price of being unprotected:

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Discuss and tell me what you think

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marder created this revision.Feb 2 2022, 9:03 AM

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Successful build - Chance fights ever on the side of the prudent.

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ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechSynthesis.framework/Versions/A/SpeechSynthesis.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechSynthesis.framework/Versions/A/SpeechSynthesis are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/UIFoundation.framework/Versions/A/UIFoundation.tbd and library file /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/UIFoundation.framework/Versions/A/UIFoundation are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CFNetwork.framework/Versions/A/CFNetwork.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CFNetwork.framework/Versions/A/CFNetwork are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/FSEvents.framework/Versions/A/FSEvents.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/FSEvents.framework/Versions/A/FSEvents are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Metadata.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Metadata are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OSServices.framework/Versions/A/OSServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OSServices.framework/Versions/A/OSServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SearchKit.framework/Versions/A/SearchKit.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SearchKit.framework/Versions/A/SearchKit are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/AE.framework/Versions/A/AE.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/AE.framework/Versions/A/AE are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/LaunchServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/LaunchServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/DictionaryServices.framework/Versions/A/DictionaryServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/DictionaryServices.framework/Versions/A/DictionaryServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SharedFileList.framework/Versions/A/SharedFileList.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SharedFileList.framework/Versions/A/SharedFileList are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreFoundation.framework/CoreFoundation.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreFoundation.framework/CoreFoundation are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxWindow>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Debug/ActorEditor.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxWindow>::OnChildFocus(wxChildFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_busyinfo.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxWindow>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Debug/ActorEditor.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxWindow>::OnFocus(wxFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_busyinfo.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxWindow>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Debug/ActorEditor.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxWindow>::OnNavigationKey(wxNavigationKeyEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_busyinfo.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxStringToStringHashMap_wxImplementation_HashTable::clear()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Debug/ActorEditor.o' to global weak symbol 'wxStringToStringHashMap_wxImplementation_HashTable::DeleteNode(_wxHashTable_NodeBase*)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_baseu-3.1.a(baselib_appbase.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxStringToNumHashMap_wxImplementation_HashTable::clear()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Debug/ActorEditor.o' to global weak symbol 'wxStringToNumHashMap_wxImplementation_HashTable::DeleteNode(_wxHashTable_NodeBase*)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_baseu-3.1.a(baselib_appbase.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxListCtrlBase>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Debug/EditableListCtrl.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxListCtrlBase>::OnChildFocus(wxChildFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_listctrlcmn.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxListCtrlBase>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Debug/EditableListCtrl.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxListCtrlBase>::OnFocus(wxFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_listctrlcmn.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxListCtrlBase>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Debug/EditableListCtrl.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxListCtrlBase>::OnNavigationKey(wxNavigationKeyEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_listctrlcmn.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxCompositeWindow<wxSliderBase>::wxCompositeWindow()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Debug/Environment.o' to global weak symbol 'wxCompositeWindow<wxSliderBase>::OnWindowCreate(wxWindowCreateEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_slider_osx.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxCompositeWindow<wxSpinCtrlBase> >::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Debug/Player.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxCompositeWindow<wxSpinCtrlBase> >::OnChildFocus(wxChildFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_spinctlg.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxCompositeWindow<wxSpinCtrlBase> >::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Debug/Player.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxCompositeWindow<wxSpinCtrlBase> >::OnFocus(wxFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_spinctlg.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxCompositeWindow<wxSpinCtrlBase> >::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Debug/Player.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxCompositeWindow<wxSpinCtrlBase> >::OnNavigationKey(wxNavigationKeyEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_spinctlg.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxCompositeWindow<wxSpinCtrlBase>::wxCompositeWindow()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Debug/Player.o' to global weak symbol 'wxCompositeWindow<wxSpinCtrlBase>::OnWindowCreate(wxWindowCreateEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_spinctlg.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxBookCtrlBase>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Debug/Player.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxBookCtrlBase>::OnChildFocus(wxChildFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_choicbkg.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxBookCtrlBase>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Debug/Player.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxBookCtrlBase>::OnFocus(wxFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_choicbkg.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxBookCtrlBase>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Debug/Player.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxBookCtrlBase>::OnNavigationKey(wxNavigationKeyEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_choicbkg.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxControl>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Debug/Brushes.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxControl>::OnChildFocus(wxChildFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_radiobox_osx.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxControl>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Debug/Brushes.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxControl>::OnFocus(wxFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_radiobox_osx.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxControl>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Debug/Brushes.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxControl>::OnNavigationKey(wxNavigationKeyEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_radiobox_osx.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreAudio.framework/CoreAudio.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreAudio.framework/CoreAudio are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//AudioToolbox.framework/AudioToolbox.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//AudioToolbox.framework/AudioToolbox are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//ForceFeedback.framework/ForceFeedback.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//ForceFeedback.framework/ForceFeedback are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreVideo.framework/CoreVideo.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreVideo.framework/CoreVideo are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//Cocoa.framework/Cocoa.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//Cocoa.framework/Cocoa are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//IOKit.framework/IOKit.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//IOKit.framework/IOKit are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//QuartzCore.framework/QuartzCore.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//QuartzCore.framework/QuartzCore are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//Metal.framework/Metal.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//Metal.framework/Metal are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//Security.framework/Security.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//Security.framework/Security are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//OpenAL.framework/OpenAL.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//OpenAL.framework/OpenAL are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreData.framework/Versions/A/CoreData.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreData.framework/Versions/A/CoreData are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ApplicationServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ApplicationServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CommonPanels.framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CommonPanels.framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Help.framework/Versions/A/Help.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Help.framework/Versions/A/Help are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageCapture.framework/Versions/A/ImageCapture.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageCapture.framework/Versions/A/ImageCapture are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Ink.framework/Versions/A/Ink.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Ink.framework/Versions/A/Ink are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OpenScripting.framework/Versions/A/OpenScripting.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OpenScripting.framework/Versions/A/OpenScripting are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Print.framework/Versions/A/Print.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Print.framework/Versions/A/Print are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SecurityHI.framework/Versions/A/SecurityHI.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SecurityHI.framework/Versions/A/SecurityHI are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechRecognition.framework/Versions/A/SpeechRecognition.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechRecognition.framework/Versions/A/SpeechRecognition are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreImage.framework/Versions/A/CoreImage.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreImage.framework/Versions/A/CoreImage are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/UIFoundation.framework/Versions/A/UIFoundation.tbd and library file /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/UIFoundation.framework/Versions/A/UIFoundation are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/CoreGraphics.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/CoreGraphics are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreText.framework/Versions/A/CoreText.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreText.framework/Versions/A/CoreText are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/ImageIO.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/ImageIO are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//ColorSync.framework/Versions/A/ColorSync.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//ColorSync.framework/Versions/A/ColorSync are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ATS.framework/Versions/A/ATS.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ATS.framework/Versions/A/ATS are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ColorSyncLegacy.framework/Versions/A/ColorSyncLegacy.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ColorSyncLegacy.framework/Versions/A/ColorSyncLegacy are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/CoreServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/CoreServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIServices.framework/Versions/A/HIServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIServices.framework/Versions/A/HIServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LangAnalysis.framework/Versions/A/LangAnalysis.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LangAnalysis.framework/Versions/A/LangAnalysis are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/PrintCore.framework/Versions/A/PrintCore.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/PrintCore.framework/Versions/A/PrintCore are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/QD.framework/Versions/A/QD.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/QD.framework/Versions/A/QD are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechSynthesis.framework/Versions/A/SpeechSynthesis.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechSynthesis.framework/Versions/A/SpeechSynthesis are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CFNetwork.framework/Versions/A/CFNetwork.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CFNetwork.framework/Versions/A/CFNetwork are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/FSEvents.framework/Versions/A/FSEvents.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/FSEvents.framework/Versions/A/FSEvents are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Metadata.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Metadata are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OSServices.framework/Versions/A/OSServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OSServices.framework/Versions/A/OSServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SearchKit.framework/Versions/A/SearchKit.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SearchKit.framework/Versions/A/SearchKit are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/AE.framework/Versions/A/AE.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/AE.framework/Versions/A/AE are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/LaunchServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/LaunchServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/DictionaryServices.framework/Versions/A/DictionaryServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/DictionaryServices.framework/Versions/A/DictionaryServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SharedFileList.framework/Versions/A/SharedFileList.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SharedFileList.framework/Versions/A/SharedFileList are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: object file (../../../libraries/osx/fmt/lib/libfmt.a(format.cc.o)) was built for newer OSX version (10.13) than being linked (10.12)
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreFoundation.framework/CoreFoundation.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreFoundation.framework/CoreFoundation are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
builderr-release-macos.txt
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/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin/ranlib: file: ../../../binaries/system/libsimulation2.a(precompiled.o) has no symbols
/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin/ranlib: file: ../../../binaries/system/libengine.a(precompiled.o) has no symbols
/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin/ranlib: file: ../../../binaries/system/libgraphics.a(precompiled.o) has no symbols
/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin/ranlib: file: ../../../binaries/system/libatlas.a(precompiled.o) has no symbols
/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin/ranlib: file: ../../../binaries/system/libgui.a(precompiled.o) has no symbols
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreAudio.framework/CoreAudio.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreAudio.framework/CoreAudio are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//AudioToolbox.framework/AudioToolbox.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//AudioToolbox.framework/AudioToolbox are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//ForceFeedback.framework/ForceFeedback.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//ForceFeedback.framework/ForceFeedback are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreVideo.framework/CoreVideo.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreVideo.framework/CoreVideo are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//Cocoa.framework/Cocoa.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//Cocoa.framework/Cocoa are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//IOKit.framework/IOKit.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//IOKit.framework/IOKit are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//QuartzCore.framework/QuartzCore.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//QuartzCore.framework/QuartzCore are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//Metal.framework/Metal.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//Metal.framework/Metal are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//Security.framework/Security.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//Security.framework/Security are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//OpenAL.framework/OpenAL.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//OpenAL.framework/OpenAL are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//ApplicationServices.framework/ApplicationServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//ApplicationServices.framework/ApplicationServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//Cocoa.framework/Cocoa.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//Cocoa.framework/Cocoa are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreFoundation.framework/CoreFoundation.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreFoundation.framework/CoreFoundation are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreImage.framework/Versions/A/CoreImage.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreImage.framework/Versions/A/CoreImage are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/CoreGraphics.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/CoreGraphics are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreText.framework/Versions/A/CoreText.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreText.framework/Versions/A/CoreText are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/ImageIO.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/ImageIO are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//ColorSync.framework/Versions/A/ColorSync.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//ColorSync.framework/Versions/A/ColorSync are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ATS.framework/Versions/A/ATS.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ATS.framework/Versions/A/ATS are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ColorSyncLegacy.framework/Versions/A/ColorSyncLegacy.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ColorSyncLegacy.framework/Versions/A/ColorSyncLegacy are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/CoreServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/CoreServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIServices.framework/Versions/A/HIServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIServices.framework/Versions/A/HIServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LangAnalysis.framework/Versions/A/LangAnalysis.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LangAnalysis.framework/Versions/A/LangAnalysis are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/PrintCore.framework/Versions/A/PrintCore.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/PrintCore.framework/Versions/A/PrintCore are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/QD.framework/Versions/A/QD.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/QD.framework/Versions/A/QD are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechSynthesis.framework/Versions/A/SpeechSynthesis.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechSynthesis.framework/Versions/A/SpeechSynthesis are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreData.framework/Versions/A/CoreData.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreData.framework/Versions/A/CoreData are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CommonPanels.framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CommonPanels.framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Help.framework/Versions/A/Help.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Help.framework/Versions/A/Help are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageCapture.framework/Versions/A/ImageCapture.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageCapture.framework/Versions/A/ImageCapture are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Ink.framework/Versions/A/Ink.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Ink.framework/Versions/A/Ink are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OpenScripting.framework/Versions/A/OpenScripting.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OpenScripting.framework/Versions/A/OpenScripting are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Print.framework/Versions/A/Print.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Print.framework/Versions/A/Print are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SecurityHI.framework/Versions/A/SecurityHI.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SecurityHI.framework/Versions/A/SecurityHI are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechRecognition.framework/Versions/A/SpeechRecognition.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechRecognition.framework/Versions/A/SpeechRecognition are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CFNetwork.framework/Versions/A/CFNetwork.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CFNetwork.framework/Versions/A/CFNetwork are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/FSEvents.framework/Versions/A/FSEvents.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/FSEvents.framework/Versions/A/FSEvents are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Metadata.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Metadata are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OSServices.framework/Versions/A/OSServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OSServices.framework/Versions/A/OSServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SearchKit.framework/Versions/A/SearchKit.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SearchKit.framework/Versions/A/SearchKit are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/AE.framework/Versions/A/AE.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/AE.framework/Versions/A/AE are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/LaunchServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/LaunchServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/DictionaryServices.framework/Versions/A/DictionaryServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/DictionaryServices.framework/Versions/A/DictionaryServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SharedFileList.framework/Versions/A/SharedFileList.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SharedFileList.framework/Versions/A/SharedFileList are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/UIFoundation.framework/Versions/A/UIFoundation.tbd and library file /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/UIFoundation.framework/Versions/A/UIFoundation are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: object file (../../../libraries/osx/fmt/lib/libfmt.a(format.cc.o)) was built for newer OSX version (10.13) than being linked (10.12)
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreFoundation.framework/CoreFoundation.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreFoundation.framework/CoreFoundation are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
In file included from ../../../source/tools/atlas/AtlasUI/ScenarioEditor/Sections/Map/Map.cpp:23:
In file included from ../../../source/tools/atlas/AtlasObject/JSONSpiritInclude.h:32:
../../../source/third_party/jsonspirit/json_spirit_writer_template.h:37:50: warning: unused typedef 'Char_type' [-Wunused-local-typedef]
typedef typename String_type::value_type Char_type;
^
1 warning generated.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreAudio.framework/CoreAudio.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreAudio.framework/CoreAudio are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//ForceFeedback.framework/ForceFeedback.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//ForceFeedback.framework/ForceFeedback are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreVideo.framework/CoreVideo.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreVideo.framework/CoreVideo are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//QuartzCore.framework/QuartzCore.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//QuartzCore.framework/QuartzCore are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//Metal.framework/Metal.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//Metal.framework/Metal are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//IOKit.framework/IOKit.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//IOKit.framework/IOKit are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//Cocoa.framework/Cocoa.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//Cocoa.framework/Cocoa are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//AudioToolbox.framework/AudioToolbox.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//AudioToolbox.framework/AudioToolbox are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//OpenGL.framework/OpenGL.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//OpenGL.framework/OpenGL are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//AGL.framework/AGL.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//AGL.framework/AGL are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//Security.framework/Security.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//Security.framework/Security are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreImage.framework/Versions/A/CoreImage.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreImage.framework/Versions/A/CoreImage are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ApplicationServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ApplicationServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CommonPanels.framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CommonPanels.framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Help.framework/Versions/A/Help.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Help.framework/Versions/A/Help are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageCapture.framework/Versions/A/ImageCapture.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageCapture.framework/Versions/A/ImageCapture are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Ink.framework/Versions/A/Ink.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Ink.framework/Versions/A/Ink are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OpenScripting.framework/Versions/A/OpenScripting.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OpenScripting.framework/Versions/A/OpenScripting are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Print.framework/Versions/A/Print.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Print.framework/Versions/A/Print are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SecurityHI.framework/Versions/A/SecurityHI.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SecurityHI.framework/Versions/A/SecurityHI are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechRecognition.framework/Versions/A/SpeechRecognition.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechRecognition.framework/Versions/A/SpeechRecognition are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreData.framework/Versions/A/CoreData.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreData.framework/Versions/A/CoreData are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/libGLU.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/libGLU.dylib are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/libGL.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/libGL.dylib are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/CoreGraphics.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/CoreGraphics are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreText.framework/Versions/A/CoreText.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreText.framework/Versions/A/CoreText are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/ImageIO.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/ImageIO are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//ColorSync.framework/Versions/A/ColorSync.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//ColorSync.framework/Versions/A/ColorSync are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ATS.framework/Versions/A/ATS.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ATS.framework/Versions/A/ATS are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ColorSyncLegacy.framework/Versions/A/ColorSyncLegacy.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ColorSyncLegacy.framework/Versions/A/ColorSyncLegacy are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/CoreServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/CoreServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIServices.framework/Versions/A/HIServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIServices.framework/Versions/A/HIServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LangAnalysis.framework/Versions/A/LangAnalysis.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LangAnalysis.framework/Versions/A/LangAnalysis are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/PrintCore.framework/Versions/A/PrintCore.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/PrintCore.framework/Versions/A/PrintCore are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/QD.framework/Versions/A/QD.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/QD.framework/Versions/A/QD are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechSynthesis.framework/Versions/A/SpeechSynthesis.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechSynthesis.framework/Versions/A/SpeechSynthesis are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/UIFoundation.framework/Versions/A/UIFoundation.tbd and library file /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/UIFoundation.framework/Versions/A/UIFoundation are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CFNetwork.framework/Versions/A/CFNetwork.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CFNetwork.framework/Versions/A/CFNetwork are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/FSEvents.framework/Versions/A/FSEvents.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/FSEvents.framework/Versions/A/FSEvents are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Metadata.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Metadata are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OSServices.framework/Versions/A/OSServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OSServices.framework/Versions/A/OSServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SearchKit.framework/Versions/A/SearchKit.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SearchKit.framework/Versions/A/SearchKit are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/AE.framework/Versions/A/AE.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/AE.framework/Versions/A/AE are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/LaunchServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/LaunchServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/DictionaryServices.framework/Versions/A/DictionaryServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/DictionaryServices.framework/Versions/A/DictionaryServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SharedFileList.framework/Versions/A/SharedFileList.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SharedFileList.framework/Versions/A/SharedFileList are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreFoundation.framework/CoreFoundation.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreFoundation.framework/CoreFoundation are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxLogger::~wxLogger()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Release/ActorEditor.o' to global weak symbol 'wxStringToNumHashMap_wxImplementation_HashTable::DeleteNode(_wxHashTable_NodeBase*)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_baseu-3.1.a(baselib_appbase.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxLogger::~wxLogger()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Release/ActorEditor.o' to global weak symbol 'wxStringToStringHashMap_wxImplementation_HashTable::DeleteNode(_wxHashTable_NodeBase*)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_baseu-3.1.a(baselib_appbase.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxWindow>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Release/ActorEditor.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxWindow>::OnChildFocus(wxChildFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_busyinfo.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxWindow>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Release/ActorEditor.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxWindow>::OnFocus(wxFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_busyinfo.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxWindow>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Release/ActorEditor.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxWindow>::OnNavigationKey(wxNavigationKeyEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_busyinfo.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxListCtrlBase>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Release/EditableListCtrl.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxListCtrlBase>::OnChildFocus(wxChildFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_listctrlcmn.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxListCtrlBase>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Release/EditableListCtrl.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxListCtrlBase>::OnFocus(wxFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_listctrlcmn.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxListCtrlBase>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Release/EditableListCtrl.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxListCtrlBase>::OnNavigationKey(wxNavigationKeyEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_listctrlcmn.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'VariableSliderBox::VariableSliderBox(wxWindow*, wxString const&, AtlasMessage::Shareable<float>&, float, float)' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Release/Environment.o' to global weak symbol 'wxCompositeWindow<wxSliderBase>::OnWindowCreate(wxWindowCreateEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_slider_osx.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxCompositeWindow<wxSpinCtrlBase> >::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Release/Player.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxCompositeWindow<wxSpinCtrlBase> >::OnChildFocus(wxChildFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_spinctlg.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxCompositeWindow<wxSpinCtrlBase> >::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Release/Player.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxCompositeWindow<wxSpinCtrlBase> >::OnFocus(wxFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_spinctlg.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxCompositeWindow<wxSpinCtrlBase> >::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Release/Player.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxCompositeWindow<wxSpinCtrlBase> >::OnNavigationKey(wxNavigationKeyEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_spinctlg.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxCompositeWindow<wxSpinCtrlBase> >::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Release/Player.o' to global weak symbol 'wxCompositeWindow<wxSpinCtrlBase>::OnWindowCreate(wxWindowCreateEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_spinctlg.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxBookCtrlBase>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Release/Player.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxBookCtrlBase>::OnChildFocus(wxChildFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_choicbkg.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxBookCtrlBase>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Release/Player.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxBookCtrlBase>::OnFocus(wxFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_choicbkg.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxBookCtrlBase>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Release/Player.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxBookCtrlBase>::OnNavigationKey(wxNavigationKeyEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_choicbkg.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxControl>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Release/Brushes.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxControl>::OnChildFocus(wxChildFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_radiobox_osx.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxControl>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Release/Brushes.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxControl>::OnFocus(wxFocusEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_radiobox_osx.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: direct access in function 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxControl>::wxNavigationEnabled()' from file 'obj/AtlasUI_Release/Brushes.o' to global weak symbol 'wxNavigationEnabled<wxControl>::OnNavigationKey(wxNavigationKeyEvent&)' from file '/Users/wfg/Jenkins/workspace/macos-differential/libraries/osx/wxwidgets/lib/libwx_osx_cocoau_core-3.1.a(corelib_radiobox_osx.o)' means the weak symbol cannot be overridden at runtime. This was likely caused by different translation units being compiled with different visibility settings.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreAudio.framework/CoreAudio.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreAudio.framework/CoreAudio are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//AudioToolbox.framework/AudioToolbox.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//AudioToolbox.framework/AudioToolbox are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//ForceFeedback.framework/ForceFeedback.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//ForceFeedback.framework/ForceFeedback are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreVideo.framework/CoreVideo.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreVideo.framework/CoreVideo are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//Cocoa.framework/Cocoa.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//Cocoa.framework/Cocoa are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//IOKit.framework/IOKit.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//IOKit.framework/IOKit are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//QuartzCore.framework/QuartzCore.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//QuartzCore.framework/QuartzCore are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//Metal.framework/Metal.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//Metal.framework/Metal are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//Security.framework/Security.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//Security.framework/Security are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//OpenAL.framework/OpenAL.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//OpenAL.framework/OpenAL are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreData.framework/Versions/A/CoreData.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreData.framework/Versions/A/CoreData are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ApplicationServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ApplicationServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CommonPanels.framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CommonPanels.framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Help.framework/Versions/A/Help.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Help.framework/Versions/A/Help are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageCapture.framework/Versions/A/ImageCapture.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageCapture.framework/Versions/A/ImageCapture are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Ink.framework/Versions/A/Ink.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Ink.framework/Versions/A/Ink are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OpenScripting.framework/Versions/A/OpenScripting.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OpenScripting.framework/Versions/A/OpenScripting are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Print.framework/Versions/A/Print.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Print.framework/Versions/A/Print are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SecurityHI.framework/Versions/A/SecurityHI.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SecurityHI.framework/Versions/A/SecurityHI are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechRecognition.framework/Versions/A/SpeechRecognition.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechRecognition.framework/Versions/A/SpeechRecognition are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreImage.framework/Versions/A/CoreImage.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreImage.framework/Versions/A/CoreImage are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/UIFoundation.framework/Versions/A/UIFoundation.tbd and library file /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/UIFoundation.framework/Versions/A/UIFoundation are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/CoreGraphics.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/CoreGraphics are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreText.framework/Versions/A/CoreText.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreText.framework/Versions/A/CoreText are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/ImageIO.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/ImageIO are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//ColorSync.framework/Versions/A/ColorSync.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//ColorSync.framework/Versions/A/ColorSync are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ATS.framework/Versions/A/ATS.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ATS.framework/Versions/A/ATS are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ColorSyncLegacy.framework/Versions/A/ColorSyncLegacy.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ColorSyncLegacy.framework/Versions/A/ColorSyncLegacy are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/CoreServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/CoreServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIServices.framework/Versions/A/HIServices.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIServices.framework/Versions/A/HIServices are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LangAnalysis.framework/Versions/A/LangAnalysis.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LangAnalysis.framework/Versions/A/LangAnalysis are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/PrintCore.framework/Versions/A/PrintCore.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/PrintCore.framework/Versions/A/PrintCore are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/QD.framework/Versions/A/QD.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/QD.framework/Versions/A/QD are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechSynthesis.framework/Versions/A/SpeechSynthesis.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechSynthesis.framework/Versions/A/SpeechSynthesis are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks//CFNetwork.framework/Versions/A/CFNetwork.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks//CFNetwork.framework/Versions/A/CFNetwork are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/FSEvents.framework/Versions/A/FSEvents.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/FSEvents.framework/Versions/A/FSEvents are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
ld: warning: text-based stub file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Metadata.tbd and library file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Metadata are out of sync. Falling back to library file for linking.
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MinDistance of 60 matches nicely with the attack range of the CC's arrows (and as an added bonus gives a nice ring around the CC as a visual).

true, but irc the building restrictions measure from the center of an entity and not from the bounding box (although I could be wrong about that). So 60m would still mean that the fields are somewhat in range. But I have no strong feeling about it, so 60 would work as well.

Not a fan of anything that eliminates player choice. Also worth noting that while some people dislike it, others do like it

If you really want to discourage fields around the CC (which seems fine in principle to me) Vali had a good suggestion on the forum to decrease the number of potential farmers (and decrease corresponding the relative cost). The positive farming aura farther away also makes sense to me. But I don’t like hard restrictions.

Early game (and possibly late game) will also be very, very different as a result of changes. Impossible to tell how it’ll impact balance, which creates radical shift concerns

It is indeed impossible to exactly predict how this (or any change that may discourage that) will impact the balance, but on the other hand it gives also more strategic options. The exact location of your farming operations as well as how you decide to defend them (or if at all) will gain much more importance and could make for some interesting strategies. So yeah, it's a roll of the dice (especially the iberians will get weaker through this I suppose), but I don't think it will make the gameplay worse, rather just change it.

The fewer gather per field approach does sound nice as well, but I think that would make it harder to get enough food an tight maps, as you just need much more space. And you will still end up with farms around the CC, because why not. There is no additional incentive to place anything else there.

I'm also not set on the hard restrictions, but it is the "easiest" way, since the AI already knows how to handle that and because it is obvious to a new player. Having some "farmland" or some kind of positive farming aura outside range of the CC/ the city is much more difficult to communicate. Also, if the positive aura should really incentive placing your fields there, it will also take away the player choice, because why would you place your fields in a position where they are only working suboptimal? After giving it some thought, that just seems like hard restrictions but with more steps to me.

As a side note to add something about the possible concern that player may be cut of from any food income through an early rush -> D4380 will allow player to get at least some food if they decide to not immediately slaughter their starting animals, so that should be not that much of a problem

I think there's a lot of faulty reasoning here, so I will take each in turn.

In D4474#190855, @marder wrote:

It is indeed impossible to exactly predict how this (or any change that may discourage that) will impact the balance, but on the other hand it gives also more strategic options. The exact location of your farming operations as well as how you decide to defend them (or if at all) will gain much more importance and could make for some interesting strategies. So yeah, it's a roll of the dice (especially the iberians will get weaker through this I suppose), but I don't think it will make the gameplay worse, rather just change it.

This can't be predicted. For one, maps are randomly generated and where you can place the farms may not be an option because they are too crowded. You can't say you don't know how it will turn out and then immediately say "but how it will turn out will be better" because you literally just admitted that you do not know what it will be.

Also, a total roll of the dice seems imprudent. It could totally ruin an alpha/player base.

As for whether this is just a change or worse, that will always be a matter of preference. But it is easy to imagine that the game will become 100% rush dominated because an initial successful rush will be devastating and make fields impossible to defend. The current set up lessens that risk because (1) cc allows for garrisoning and (2) the cc shoots arrows. Everything could be different.

The fewer gather per field approach does sound nice as well, but I think that would make it harder to get enough food an tight maps, as you just need much more space. And you will still end up with farms around the CC, because why not. There is no additional incentive to place anything else there.

If this is a problem then it would be worse on tight maps. To this end, imagine a crowded map where you can only place one farm next to a farm stand because the map is too crowded. You would need to have a bunch of farmstands, which would be expensive and take forever to build. it would also be impossible to defend. Think also about maps where you randomly gen close to your teammate and are literally unable to place any farms because all your territory is within the space limitation. Think also about island maps where this may be case. Think also about nomad maps

I'm also not set on the hard restrictions, but it is the "easiest" way, since the AI already knows how to handle that and because it is obvious to a new player. Having some "farmland" or some kind of positive farming aura outside range of the CC/ the city is much more difficult to communicate.

Easiest often isn't right. If you're concerned about AI then it won't know to protect farms properly and a simple raid could result in all the AI's farmers being lost because the AI doesn't protect them and the women have to walk very farm to garrison. If you're worried about how to convey something like farmlands then you should think about how to better convey the message instead of eliminating the message. Easiest way to change often means worse outcomes

Also, if the positive aura should really incentive placing your fields there, it will also take away the player choice, because why would you place your fields in a position where they are only working suboptimal? After giving it some thought, that just seems like hard restrictions but with more steps to me.

This is just wrong. Players can chose where to put it where they want now (or with a positive aura). Hard restrictions take away choice. Incentives let players chose what to do. For example, a player could determine that positive auras aren't worth the hassle of protecting them.

Honestly, if the field thing is so disruptive to "immersion" for some players (which many don't care about) then those players can already choose a more immersive experience. What you are proposing is to force everyone to take the experience that you want but are choosing not to take.

As a side note to add something about the possible concern that player may be cut of from any food income through an early rush -> D4380 will allow player to get at least some food if they decide to not immediately slaughter their starting animals, so that should be not that much of a problem

This isn't true either. Players will first have to build stables, which is only possible with stable wood income which comes from more units collecting (i.e., food). You can also only train initial livestock with food. If you can't survive an initial rush because you're farms are too hard to defend then the stable trickle patch will do nothing to help because players wont get far enough to take adv of it (this rush problem is also an obvious potential problem with this patch too)

In D4474#190857, @chrstgtr wrote:

This can't be predicted. For one, maps are randomly generated and where you can place the farms may not be an option because they are too crowded. You can't say you don't know how it will turn out and then immediately say "but how it will turn out will be better" because you literally just admitted that you do not know what it will be.

I did some test before uploading the patch and 65 or 60 m are not that far as it may seem. Yous still can place fields on all nomad or island maps or even on a 4 player tiny empire map. That much space is/ should always be around the CC.
And I stand to what I said, I still think it will in most cases lead to a more strategic decision about where to place your farms. Also note that I did not say better, I said I don't believe it will turn out worse then it is at the moment.

Also, a total roll of the dice seems imprudent. It could totally ruin an alpha/player base.

That was just a figure of speech, which may have been chosen poorly. Point is that yes changes are hard to predict, but the very successful DE already has this since 2018 and it didn't ruin the mod and is still there today.

As for whether this is just a change or worse, that will always be a matter of preference. But it is easy to imagine that the game will become 100% rush dominated because an initial successful rush will be devastating and make fields impossible to defend. The current set up lessens that risk because (1) cc allows for garrisoning and (2) the cc shoots arrows. Everything could be different.

Everything could be different indeed. So you should _really_ think about how you want to defend, instead of just relying on the CC. Sound good to me.

If this is a problem then it would be worse on tight maps. To this end, imagine a crowded map where you can only place one farm next to a farm stand because the map is too crowded. You would need to have a bunch of farmstands, which would be expensive and take forever to build. it would also be impossible to defend. Think also about maps where you randomly gen close to your teammate and are literally unable to place any farms because all your territory is within the space limitation. Think also about island maps where this may be case. Think also about nomad maps

well, no. As I wrote earlier it should still be good with this patch. With the less gatherer per field you may ran into problems as you need more space to get the same amount of food. This patch just shifts the positions.

Easiest often isn't right. If you're concerned about AI then it won't know to protect farms properly and a simple raid could result in all the AI's farmers being lost because the AI doesn't protect them and the women have to walk very farm to garrison. If you're worried about how to convey something like farmlands then you should think about how to better convey the message instead of eliminating the message. Easiest way to change often means worse outcomes

I didn't claim that the easiest way is always right. I said it is a bonus that the AI can just handle it as is. And I still think that these hard restrictions are a better way to communicate something like this. But honestly I wouldn't mind using the 'buildabe farmlands'/ repurposed rotary mills mentioned in the thread if you would be ok with that. But as I said, that seems like the same outcome only with more intermediate steps.

This is just wrong. Players can chose where to put it where they want now (or with a positive aura). Hard restrictions take away choice. Incentives let players chose what to do. For example, a player could determine that positive auras aren't worth the hassle of protecting them.

Honestly, if the field thing is so disruptive to "immersion" for some players (which many don't care about) then those players can already choose a more immersive experience. What you are proposing is to force everyone to take the experience that you want but are choosing not to take.

Disagree. Maybe this is just depending on personality, but yes: I choose to not play in the way I find more immersive, as this is clearly the worse choice and why would I do that?

So yes many people don't care at all, but as you can see in the thread, many people do care.

In D4474#190858, @marder wrote:

In D4474#190857, @chrstgtr wrote:

This can't be predicted. For one, maps are randomly generated and where you can place the farms may not be an option because they are too crowded. You can't say you don't know how it will turn out and then immediately say "but how it will turn out will be better" because you literally just admitted that you do not know what it will be.

I did some test before uploading the patch and 65 or 60 m are not that far as it may seem. Yous still can place fields on all nomad or island maps or even on a 4 player tiny empire map. That much space is/ should always be around the CC.
And I stand to what I said, I still think it will in most cases lead to a more strategic decision about where to place your farms. Also note that I did not say better, I said I don't believe it will turn out worse then it is at the moment.

There are definitely island maps i've played on where your cc arrow range is your entire territory.

On Nomad you can build right next to someone and make their territory of half of what it would be. If that means the half of your territory is water, the map's edge, or trees then you aren't going to be able to farm and it's auto gg.

And I'm talking about maps where you have 4 teammates that spawn right next to each other. It's often the case that your fields are right next to your ally's fields. If you have to build outside of CC range then that won't be possible. Also, testing this for 4 players is nonsense. Most MP games are played with 8. That gets crowded fast. For example, look at pizza games, which would be eliminated by this.

Also, a total roll of the dice seems imprudent. It could totally ruin an alpha/player base.

That was just a figure of speech, which may have been chosen poorly. Point is that yes changes are hard to predict, but the very successful DE already has this since 2018 and it didn't ruin the mod and is still there today.

DE isn't played by many, at least not at the MP level. We don't know how it'll turn out. But we do know it will be a big change, which comes with obvious big downsides. If you change the incentive structure, then you know it won't break the game and it just becomes a balancing issue of how many farmers or how much an aura bonus is appropriate.

As for whether this is just a change or worse, that will always be a matter of preference. But it is easy to imagine that the game will become 100% rush dominated because an initial successful rush will be devastating and make fields impossible to defend. The current set up lessens that risk because (1) cc allows for garrisoning and (2) the cc shoots arrows. Everything could be different.

Everything could be different indeed. So you should _really_ think about how you want to defend, instead of just relying on the CC. Sound good to me.

If you can't defend a first rush then it is gg. Do you really want a game that is regularly over in the first 3 minutes? It's not hard to imagine someone making all slingers and then camping in an enemies territory and cutting off all food prod because the enemy (who relies on wood) can't make enough men quickly enough.

If this is a problem then it would be worse on tight maps. To this end, imagine a crowded map where you can only place one farm next to a farm stand because the map is too crowded. You would need to have a bunch of farmstands, which would be expensive and take forever to build. it would also be impossible to defend. Think also about maps where you randomly gen close to your teammate and are literally unable to place any farms because all your territory is within the space limitation. Think also about island maps where this may be case. Think also about nomad maps

well, no. As I wrote earlier it should still be good with this patch. With the less gatherer per field you may ran into problems as you need more space to get the same amount of food. This patch just shifts the positions.

No, this isn't what I said. Imagine a jungle map where it is really hard to place farms because there is a ton of wood all over. That will be a problem if you don't automatically have the cleared out space near your cc. If this crowded map problem means you can only build a one field here or one field there then they'll be impossible to defend.

This is just wrong. Players can chose where to put it where they want now (or with a positive aura). Hard restrictions take away choice. Incentives let players chose what to do. For example, a player could determine that positive auras aren't worth the hassle of protecting them.

Honestly, if the field thing is so disruptive to "immersion" for some players (which many don't care about) then those players can already choose a more immersive experience. What you are proposing is to force everyone to take the experience that you want but are choosing not to take.

Disagree. Maybe this is just depending on personality, but yes: I choose to not play in the way I find more immersive, as this is clearly the worse choice and why would I do that?

So yes many people don't care at all, but as you can see in the thread, many people do care.

This is tautology. You are saying you want to force everyone to play the way that you want the game to be played even though you have the option to build far away from the cc. The flip side would be forcing everyone to play with fields right around the CC, which isn't what is done now: you choose to make the fields elsewhere. If you say you don't do it now because of immersion then be immersive and build your fields elsewhere. If you say the problem is with incentives, then change the incentives. Don't take away the choice in the game.

At the bottom of all this is you wanting to force a game to be played in a way that you chose not to do now. That isn't right. And it is very problematic because this runs this risk of breaking the entire game.

If you must (and I don't care if you do), change the incentive structure so people naturally chose to play with fields away from the CC. That can be done with a lot of ways. An obvious one is the fertile fields away from CC.

The "reduction of choice" argument carries no weight with me, as the very act of designing a game reduces choice. This is not a sandbox game. Even a sandbox game like Minecraft has "artificial" restrictions. And even if a change reduces choice, other changes can and do add choice elsewhere.

Things that restrict the player:

Phases specifically, but Technology requirements in general
Territories/borders
Unit rosters (where my LASER Troopers at?)
Game Speed (I would prefer to play at 2.333x speed, but the game doesn't allow me to do this)
Gathering Rates (why do we have to gather resources?)
Costs (I think things should be free)
Train/Build/Research time (why can't I choose to research instantly???)
Civs - Their very existence as a concept and the fact that there aren't 1000 to choose from

Why are you forcing these things down my throat?^ Why are you forcing me to play the game you want it to be played?

The answer is game design.

In D4474#190870, @chrstgtr wrote:

At the bottom of all this is you wanting to force a game to be played in a way that you chose not to do now. That isn't right. And it is very problematic because this runs this risk of breaking the entire game.

If you must (and I don't care if you do), change the incentive structure so people naturally chose to play with fields away from the CC. That can be done with a lot of ways. An obvious one is the fertile fields away from CC.

Yes, I choose not to because it would be a bad choice and after all this is a game you play to win. I don't want to force anybody to play exactly like I want it to, I just want to make the game better, which is why I suggest changes which I hope lead to that. Then I put them up here or on the forums for people to have a discussion about it.

And while I still think that hard restrictions would be a good way for various reasons, you made your point clear that you are very much against this. Also as I said, I have no problem going with the ' fertile fields' approach if that gets more approval. I just had the felling that it will come down to the same result, which is why I started this patch with the hard restrictions.

So the question is now about the exact design of the fertile fields: Would you be ok with the approach from the thread. i.e a. "field/farmland" that you can build outside of the cc range which just has an aura similar to the old rotary mill?
Because other people have expressed concerns that anything else (that is not clearly a visible aura) would be a bad idea since it is hard to convey to the player.

In D4474#190871, @wowgetoffyourcellphone wrote:

The "reduction of choice" argument carries no weight with me, as the very act of designing a game reduces choice. This is not a sandbox game. Even a sandbox game like Minecraft has "artificial" restrictions. And even if a change reduces choice, other changes can and do add choice elsewhere.

Things that restrict the player:

Phases specifically, but Technology requirements in general
Territories/borders
Unit rosters (where my LASER Troopers at?)
Game Speed (I would prefer to play at 2.333x speed, but the game doesn't allow me to do this)
Gathering Rates (why do we have to gather resources?)
Costs (I think things should be free)
Train/Build/Research time (why can't I choose to research instantly???)
Civs - Their very existence as a concept and the fact that there aren't 1000 to choose from

Why are you forcing these things down my throat?^ Why are you forcing me to play the game you want it to be played?

The answer is game design.

But most of what you name is actually a choice. I can build another cc to expand my borders. I can chose to research a tech.. I can chose to build a building, etc. That is different because I can do any of those things, but I am not forced to (or forbidden from) doing any of those things. What you're saying is more akin to "should fields exist?"

In D4474#190872, @marder wrote:

In D4474#190870, @chrstgtr wrote:

So the question is now about the exact design of the fertile fields: Would you be ok with the approach from the thread. i.e a. "field/farmland" that you can build outside of the cc range which just has an aura similar to the old rotary mill?
Because other people have expressed concerns that anything else (that is not clearly a visible aura) would be a bad idea since it is hard to convey to the player.

Of course. I am only opposed in so far as there is a restriction that says: "you cannot build your fields here, ever." A restriction like that can break the game. I hear you on the aura maybe not being sufficient to get people to build fields away from the CC. To fix that, I think you just have to make the aura bonus larger until it becomes dumb not to try to build fields away from the CC. If you think it needs to be visual then, as you suggest, something like a rotary mill makes sense (but I leave that to you I am only here insofar as that absolute restriction).

For what it's worth, I think something like a rotary mill that gives X% farming bonus rate and is only available Y meter away from the CC sounds like a great addition.

Alright that was a productive discussion then.
I will update the patch accordingly as soon as I find the time.

The game needs the ability to shade things like construction previews based on arbitrarily determined things. For instance, if there was a "Civic Spaces" farming debuff aura for CCs, waving your farm field preview inside this aura would turn it yellow (or something) as a visual indicator. It currently already turns red when obstructed.

BTW - that's my compromise solution: "Civic Spaces": Farmers -50% grain gathering rate within the influence of a Civic Center. Range: 65 meters.

Then buff the base rate slightly.

In D4474#190876, @wowgetoffyourcellphone wrote:

The game needs the ability to shade things like construction previews based on arbitrarily determined things. For instance, if there was a "Civic Spaces" farming debuff aura for CCs, waving your farm field preview inside this aura would turn it yellow (or something) as a visual indicator. It currently already turns red when obstructed.

BTW - that's my compromise solution: "Civic Spaces": Farmers -50% grain gathering rate within the influence of a Civic Center. Range: 65 meters.

Then buff the base rate slightly.

That would work as well and is fine by me, but yes then it would be really good to have that yellow indication before building it.

Random comment: one can also think of making this "phase dependent". Since in reality in small town the fields are close to the cc, while in bigger cities they lie far from it. Doing so also makes up some nice strategies: Do I build farms first close to the cc and later move them? Or have a late phase up? Or start building them far away and quickly phase up? etc.

In D4474#190892, @bb wrote:

Random comment: one can also think of making this "phase dependent". Since in reality in small town the fields are close to the cc, while in bigger cities they lie far from it. Doing so also makes up some nice strategies: Do I build farms first close to the cc and later move them? Or have a late phase up? Or start building them far away and quickly phase up? etc.

I also like this idea for the trade off choice as bb described.

It would also be easy to implement with a rotary mill that gives a positive aura that is only available in p2 and can only be built away from a cc. That way you wouldn’t have to worry about how to change base gather rate or anything like that.

that does sound good as well.

In D4474#190893, @chrstgtr wrote:

In D4474#190892, @bb wrote:

Random comment: one can also think of making this "phase dependent". Since in reality in small town the fields are close to the cc, while in bigger cities they lie far from it. Doing so also makes up some nice strategies: Do I build farms first close to the cc and later move them? Or have a late phase up? Or start building them far away and quickly phase up? etc.

I also like this idea for the trade off choice as bb described.

It would also be easy to implement with a rotary mill that gives a positive aura that is only available in p2 and can only be built away from a cc. That way you wouldn’t have to worry about how to change base gather rate or anything like that.

Adding a Rotary Mill to every civ seems like a lot of work. What about just giving the aura to the Farmstead? Make it inherent or unlocked with a tech ("Land Reform" or something). Honestly, either with Civic Spaces or Land Reform we achieve the same thing, but in opposite ways. I'm down for either or both.

The auras as proposed here are good enough for the base game. The prohibition of farming around the CC in Delenda Est works because it has the Farmland concept and really focuses farming onto those plots of land. Unless you want to go all in on something like that for base game, the auras are a lot better.

I'd still like to see the preview actor glow implemented (it would be useful in a lot of situations, both in base game and DE), but that's a different, if related, diff. It would make the farming auras feel feature complete to have that visual indicator.

update to gather the opinions on a different approach than last time.

Fields can be build anywhere (including neutral territory), but farmsteads must be at least 90 meter away from the CC.
To compensate for that, the farmsteads provide a 25% (value open for balancing) farming rate increase around them and they are also buildable in neutral territory.
So strong city/ weak countryside if you will.

Why 90 meter you may ask? Could be a bit less and is open for discussion, but see here:

note that this still allows you to place defensive structures:

Also see note how this makes it easy to get berries outside of your territory for the price of being unprotected:

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In D4474#192255, @marder wrote:

update to gather the opinions on a different approach than last time.

Fields can be build anywhere (including neutral territory), but farmsteads must be at least 90 meter away from the CC.
To compensate for that, the farmsteads provide a 25% (value open for balancing) farming rate increase around them and they are also buildable in neutral territory.
So strong city/ weak countryside if you will.

Why 90 meter you may ask? Could be a bit less and is open for discussion, but see here:

note that this still allows you to place defensive structures:

Also see note how this makes it easy to get berries outside of your territory for the price of being unprotected:

This could severely limits a player’s ability to research the berry tech for the initial berries (unless you have extra berries). That would take away from the boom/rush decision at the start of games. I would prefer a different approach or to create a separate berry building

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In D4474#192262, @chrstgtr wrote:

This could severely limits a player’s ability to research the berry tech for the initial berries (unless you have extra berries). That would take away from the boom/rush decision at the start of games. I would prefer a different approach or to create a separate berry building

One could also move the berry tech to the CC or to the houses. Since it's not strictly a "farming" technology that would be fine by me.
Or maybe even make houses dropsites for berries

Harbormaster completed remote builds in B19607: Diff 19735.Feb 22 2022, 8:10 PM

In D4474#192264, @marder wrote:

In D4474#192262, @chrstgtr wrote:

This could severely limits a player’s ability to research the berry tech for the initial berries (unless you have extra berries). That would take away from the boom/rush decision at the start of games. I would prefer a different approach or to create a separate berry building

One could also move the berry tech to the CC or to the houses. Since it's not strictly a "farming" technology that would be fine by me.
Or maybe even make houses dropsites for berries

Yeah, I thought the same. CC won’t work because it’ll take away from unit prod time. House could work, but might cause some delay at times—idk if that would take away from the benefit of researching the tech, which wouldn’t solve the problem. Storehouse could work too, but that would make a quicker boom and nerf rushes a bit. (This is why I would prefer to keep the current build order Intact —CCs and houses may not solve the problem And storehouse may cause a different problem). Maybe if it it moved to storehouse and the cost is increased?

Told the AI about the news.

moved wicker baskets tech from the farmstead to the storehouse
slightly increased the cost of the tech from 100 wood to 150

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@chrstgtr I opted for only a slight increase from 100 to 150 but that could ofc be adjusted after testing / if you think it it not enough.

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253	that is unnecessary, forgot to remove it.

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Harbormaster completed remote builds in B19618: Diff 19739.Feb 23 2022, 1:06 PM

small tweaks to the ai/ some cleanup

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	headquarters.js
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	queueplanBuilding.js
	queueplanBuilding.js (revision 26490)

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auras/

structures/

	farmstead.json
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technologies/

	gather_wicker_baskets.json
	gather_wicker_baskets.json (revision 26490)

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templates/

	template_structure_economic_farmstead.xml
	template_structure_economic_farmstead.xml (revision 26490)

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	template_structure_economic_storehouse.xml
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binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/ai/petra/headquarters.js

binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/ai/petra/queueplanBuilding.js

binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/data/auras/structures/farmstead.json

binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/data/technologies/gather_wicker_baskets.json

binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/templates/template_structure_economic_farmstead.xml

binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/templates/template_structure_economic_storehouse.xml

binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/templates/template_structure_resource_field.xml

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