From cunobelin we know that healing is very effective and temples are about healing.

Add +2HP/sec garrisoned healrate to temples to the aura proposal above? Then it were useful in battle as well, in a different, even unique way (and more reasonable than building temples gratis in seconds)

Garrisoned temple healrate is currently 3 and that one tech adds 50% (apparently Health uses floats if I read the code correctly), so 4.5. (Maybe someone is up for nerfing that tech too, making it +1 instead of +50% maybe)

metal I guess

uhm I get it. Though when I think Pericles I think Phidias so it s a need to keep something related to temple building. Adding that effect anf going to a lower cost bonus seems ok.

yes

Make spear cavalry OP again?

"ennemy"
"civic center" --> "civic centers"

300 hp champion pikemen with advanced extra cheap mercenaries as support
Alpha 22: Make Ptolemies Great Again

Nice one at last.

Basically you switched the best aura from Marcellus to Scipio, IMO Marcellus should get this and Scipio the more exotic one.

Lovely champion skirmishers.

if you test 20 pikemen with +40% hp vs 20 pikemen with +20% attack speed, the attack speed boosted unit will win. The difference between the 2 auras, is that the +20% attack speed aura affects ranged units aswell (their bonus is still low if compared to a +20% attack boost though).

Spartans have -10% population

Don't expect to get an answer.

Thx

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It was considered. I am still wondering.
(Else read the summary.)

✓ since its a formation aura, its not too much. So high risk, high reward currently. For future generations, time will tell if its OP.

If we take +1 healrate as too much for cunobelin, these +2 might be too much too. Opinions? @Grugnas @borg-
Maybe 1.5. But then again units seem to be fully healed up in a really short amount of time already when garrisoning in a temple. So probably can stay at this rate too.
either way take that: ✓

✓

• training units isn't really construction
• should mention the batch speed bonus

When garrisoned in a ship, the ship is +50% faster and trains batches of units 50% faster?

-50% metal cost? Thats -25% total cost = -75 metal. That's quite a lot.
40% would be okay for me and borg- too (he is still awake in the lobby)

✓

meh

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ah, got something similar in D565, just even more. According to PhyZic and borg- 0.5 might be better. But it's hard to determine whether 0.5 is too drastic or just right.

(07:25:20) borg-: i think 0.5 is better
(07:25:27) elexis: maybe 0.6
(07:26:06) borg-: because is cav (fast, can kill womans) more life compared to chanakya, and more atack too

Does anyone know a good car wash where they serve chicken?

Since this aura wasn't famous in particular for being too strong, I don't think that adding 10 more percent will change tht drastically. On the other side, perhaps it was just an unexplored possibility before.

good

Uh why? Brennus is a popular hero and people get good amounts of loot already. Make it 15 if you have to, no?

In https://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/4503 we intend(ed) to remove loot for women altogether, then we could increase further.

(07:34:43) borg-: I found it a lot, grugnas asked for this value
(07:35:09) borg-: i think 15 or 20 is ok
(07:35:43) borg-: or maybe add wood or stone or food

Wasn't it possible to change it to a relative bonus? If that question isn't trivial to answer, pick a number < 30 IMO

related proposal should be abolished then

It's a bit weird to affect the enemy and not the own troops. Might go for structure to make it more useful, might keep it at CC to make it a more characteristic feature.
Interesting aura either way.

group attack stats in the string.

+15% attack range, +10% crush attack and +1 armor for siege engines + some quick grep for capitalization

I'd rather see this guy running around healing some army (as effectively as cunobelin) as nigel87 proposed.

(That seems to be historically reasoned too, wasn't a pacifist / passivist apparently):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chanakya
The army of Chanadragupta and Chanakya invaded Dhana Nanda's kingdom, but disbanded after facing a severe defeat

So if you agree with the change in D565, then you could just reduce this benefit to 20%, which is still quite considerably when thinking about those expensive techs.

Right, we didn't have enough trade bonuses yet. Why not add a resource trickle to find something original that doesn't stack dangerously?
Other than that idc

heard this argument a lot that theyre slow and hence bad. But 50% seems way too much for champions.

ack

Combining the two auras, this hero got a buff even?

Why is scipio limited but boudica and marcellus not?

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ah yes train.
The other one is imo not descriptible (it's never described in any tooltip btw).

I still think that 1hp/sec is good because the problem was about randomly hitted targets by buildings. regaining 1 hp / sec in any units fight is like absorbing 1 hitpoint every 1 sec (not so far from +1 armor).

I disagree becauase with 30 metal the average metal amount yelt is between 4k and 7k. It is not op at all because this hero doesn't give any boost at all in terms of convenient attributes boost in order to win fights. Consider that most of times the player has to face heroes who boost attributes.
"high risk, high reward currently." cit.

if the reasoning isn't clear enough, i invite you to read my previous comment.

you forgot Vercingetorix who has basically same aura effect with 60 range.

I'd rather increase +1 temples healing rate OUTSIDE the temple. In that way allies won't benefit from the aura effect.

Alternatively he could do a significant boost only to the temple where he is garrisoned in.

I thought we agreed on +10% (if not +15% foreseeing an overall trade nerf and a balancement with Ashoka bonus). Going for this hero means not training Cyrus and sacrifice the possibility to train champions on the run and +20% attack damage for cavalry.