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[Gameplay] - Let Spartans start with a Champion.
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[Gameplay] - Let Spartans start with a Champion.

The Kushites start their games with an healer, the Mauryas with an elephant. The Spartans were known for their superior hoplites; this patch gives them one champion infantry at game start, to make them feel a bit different from other factions. It won't suddenly make them win games, although it could help a bit defending against very early raids.
Somewhat relevant forum threads: https://wildfiregames.com/forum/topic/35419-differentiating-civs-spartans/ and https://wildfiregames.com/forum/topic/22868-rethinking-the-meta-with-sparta-a-historical-approach/?tab=comments#comment-338125.

Patch by: @Nescio
Differential revision: D3412
Reviewed by: @Palaxin, @wraitii
Reservations by: @ValihrAnt
Comment by: @borg-

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Committed

Freagarach

Jan 19 2021, 8:03 AM

Reviewer

Palaxin

Differential Revision

D3412: [gameplay] let spart start with a champion

Parents

rP24692: [Gameplay] - Merge wonder population auras.

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Reverted By

D3426: [gameplay] revert rP24693

Build Status

Buildable 15221
Build 33074: Post-Commit Build	Jenkins
Build 33073: Post-Commit Build (macOS)	Jenkins

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Freagarach committed rP24693: [Gameplay] - Let Spartans start with a Champion..Jan 19 2021, 8:03 AM

Freagarach added an edge: D3412: [gameplay] let spart start with a champion.

Freagarach added subscribers: ValihrAnt, Nescio, borg- and 2 others.

Harbormaster completed building B15221: rP24693: [Gameplay] - Let Spartans start with a Champion..Jan 19 2021, 8:20 AM

Me and Feldfeld tried this out in a 1vs1 and the champion provides an early advantage that is very hard to deal with. The early champion forces the opposing player to either abandon his starting woodline or take heavy loses fighting back against the champion.

This commit now has outstanding concerns.Jan 19 2021, 6:43 PM

Thanks for testing!
Should it be reverted? Or perhaps remove the starting cavalry to compensate?

In rP24693#48034, @Nescio wrote:

Thanks for testing!
Should it be reverted? Or perhaps remove the starting cavalry to compensate?

Maybe give them a Skiritai instead of a proper champion?

I'd rather revert. We can experiment with this for a25

D3426

Freagarach added a reverting change: D3426: [gameplay] revert rP24693.Jan 20 2021, 8:11 AM

Freagarach mentioned this in rP24718: [Gameplay] - Remove starting hoplite from Spartans..Jan 20 2021, 8:15 AM

Stan removed an auditor: ValihrAnt.Jan 21 2021, 3:07 PM

This commit no longer requires audit.Jan 21 2021, 3:07 PM

The champion could have been kept just by removing one citizen spear, that would balance the economic damage done to the enemy.

Feel free to make a patch for A25.

In rP24693#48309, @borg- wrote:

The champion could have been kept just by removing one citizen spear, that would balance the economic damage done to the enemy.

sounds interesting to me

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civs/

spart.json

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