It's more of a military bonus than an economical one as there are far more militaristic technologies than economical ones. Keep in mind that Phasing up will also be quicker which will allow for players to click up slightly later and still have the same uptime as others, giving a slight advantage there too. Or use it to access previously locked units/techs a bit quicker for a military advantage.
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Center Of Intelligence > Center of Intelligence.
Use correct minus sign −
it would be interesting to add a story.
For me the idea of the patch is good.
Moved to using a more correct implementation by putting the bonus under civbonuses. The hope was that the technology costs (in the Structure Tree) would now be displayed correctly, instead of them all being displayed with a 5% discount, but now they're all displayed with a 15% discount. That includes phase up upgrades, which can't be skipped. So I will need help in fixing that. Also the naming of the new files can probably be improved.
- Why Athens?
- Why all resources?
- Why all technologies?
binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/data/civs/athen.json | ||
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27 ↗ | (On Diff #16456) | Intelligence is probably not the most appropiate term in this case. |
27–31 ↗ | (On Diff #16456) | Unnecessary, information is loaded directly from the civbonus file. |
binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/data/technologies/civbonuses/athen_technologies.json | ||
8 | Structures −10% technology resource costs. (cf. library.json aura) |
https://wildfiregames.com/forum/topic/36934-civ-differentiation-athens/?tab=comments#comment-419883
Athens intellectual center-->cheaper techs
Why Athens?
Athens was the home to many philosophers and had a pretty decent education system.
Why all resources? Why all technologies?
It doesn't necessarily have to be all resources or all technologies, nor is the value set in stone. Though, the bonus has great utility in allowing players to get both economy and military upgrades more easily. Having cheaper phase-ups and cheaper military upgrades can give them the identity of a very aggressive civ.
binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/data/civs/athen.json | ||
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27 ↗ | (On Diff #16456) | Center of Education? Maybe something like: Home of Wisdom? Don't really have other ideas. |
Removed changes from athen.json file, ajdusted the tooltip and hopefully gave the bonus a better name.
Just add a description.
The idea of adding a third bonus is a good one, and has a historic support. It is a good start for the diversification of civilizations. Next step I believe that giving the team bonus atheninse will also affect athen player too.
Yes, Athens was a centre of literary activity and many philosophers moved there. That doesn't mean it was technologically more advanced. Although it was not a rural backwater such as Sparta, even at its peak Athens was a provincial town compared to Babylon. Within the Greek world, the best doctors came from Kos (where Hippocrates lived) and advances in engineering (including artillery) came from the Greek city states in Southern Italy (the region where the Pythagoreans were active; not a coincidence) and Sicily. Syracusae was especially important, arguably the largest and most powerful city state in the Greek world (Athens' Sicilian expedition was a great failure) and the great rival of Carthage for centuries (Rome was a late entry); Syracusae attracted talent from everywhere (even Plato stayed there for a few years) and was also the first Greek state to have quadriremes, quinqueremes, and hexaremes. Polyremes may actually have been invented in Sidon, Tyre, or Carthage; those also produce high-quality goods such as glass, dyes, and textiles far superior to anything the contemporary Greeks could produce.
Virtually all surviving texts from the classical period (5th and 4th C BC) are from Athens and the Athenian dialect (Attic) was prestigious in the Hellenistic and later periods and formed the basis of Hellenistic and Modern Greek. As a consequence historiography is largely Atheno-centric and it is especially important to remain critical to avoid unjust stereotyping.
Philosophers, true; “education system” is rather an exaggeration, though. It was mostly rich young men following and listening to gurus to learn how to win debates (an useful skill for those with political ambitions in the Athenian democracy).
As for this patch specifically, I would prefer it to be focused on a subset of technologies. Or if it must apply to every technology, then how about a time reduction instead of a resource discount?
I think that just reducing the research time is not very attractive, I prefer resources in this case, but -5% less resources and -10% research time for example, can work very well too.
I like for all techs.
Changed from a cost reduction to a research time reduction of 15%.
Added an icon.
Added a description. Probably a bit reaching on it though.
Maybe I can help with the English part. How does this look?
"Athenian civilization was renowned for its intellectual thought and creativity. This bonus reflects that Athen's advanced intellectual development."