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add specific names in Ancient Greek for Iron Weapons
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Authored by abian on Aug 26 2023, 6:40 PM.

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Koine:
σιδήρεα ὅπλα
sidērea hopla

Doric:
σιδάρεα ὅπλα
sidarea hopla

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Koine σιδήρεα (sidērea), in masculine singular σιδήρεος, "made of iron"

Doric σιδάρεα (sidarea), in masculine singular σιδάρεος, "made of iron"

Attic, Koine and others ὅπλα (hopla), in singular ὅπλον (hoplon), "weapon"

(Disclaimer: According to my references and if I'm not mistaken. I'm not an expert.)

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abian published this revision for review.Aug 26 2023, 6:40 PM
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Is this the actual Koine Greek? (Doric Greek may be used for the Spartans, while Koine for the others)

abian added a comment.Sep 24 2023, 4:01 PM

Is this the actual Koine Greek? (Doric Greek may be used for the Spartans, while Koine for the others)

Ah. I hadn't thought about this distinction and I'm not an expert, so if it's fine the way I have it, it will be coincidence. The English Wiktionary says, about σῐ́δηρος...

(5th BCE Attic) IPA(key): /sí.dɛː.ros/
(1st CE Egyptian) IPA(key): /ˈsi.de̝.ros/
(4th CE Koine) IPA(key): /ˈsi.ði.ros/
(10th CE Byzantine) IPA(key): /ˈsi.ði.ros/
...

About ὅπλᾰ...

(5th BCE Attic) IPA(key): /hó.pla/
(1st CE Egyptian) IPA(key): /ˈ(h)o.pla/
(4th CE Koine) IPA(key): /ˈo.pla/
(10th CE Byzantine) IPA(key): /ˈo.pla/
...

About γεωγραφίᾱ...

(1st CE Egyptian) IPA(key): /ɡe.o.ɡraˈpʰi.a/
(4th CE Koine) IPA(key): /ʝe.o.ɣraˈɸi.a/
(10th CE Byzantine) IPA(key): /ʝe.o.ɣraˈfi.a/
...

Does this mean that the same forms may be valid for all our cases?

Koine Greek is acceptable if there are no Doric references, sure. :)

Well, I think we go:

Athenians: Attic -> Koine

Spartans: Doric -> Koine

Macedonians/Seleucids/Ptolemies (when applicable): Koine

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abian updated this revision to Diff 22384.Oct 8 2023, 7:25 PM
abian retitled this revision from add Ancient Greek names for Iron Weapons and Cartography to add specific names in Ancient Greek for Iron Weapons.
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I'm leaving aside "Cartography" for lack of references.

Vulcan added a comment.Oct 8 2023, 7:28 PM

Build failure - The Moirai have given mortals hearts that can endure.

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Vulcan added a comment.Oct 8 2023, 7:33 PM

Successful build - Chance fights ever on the side of the prudent.

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