This mixin is genericized in order to be useful for other units if desired. It adds a splash attack, but removes some regular attack to balance. With this, a champion or other unit can be easily differentiated. In this instance, it is applied to the Macedonians' champion swordsman, the Thracian Black Cloak. These guys used the very long Rhomphaia and Sika swords of Thraco-Dacian origin. This idea was born from the balance discussions with other contributors.
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real_tabasco_sauce - Group Reviewers
Balancing - Commits
- rP27871: [Gameplay] Create a generic 'Longsword' mixin that adds a small splash attack…
- Apply patch.
- Test the Mace "Thracian Black Cloak" unit in combat and see if you like it. The effect might be subtle.
- Suggest better values (the splash range, for example)
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Diff Detail
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- rP 0 A.D. Public Repository
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Build failure - The Moirai have given mortals hearts that can endure.
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Successful build - Chance fights ever on the side of the prudent.
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| 10–13 ↗ | (On Diff #22341) | I would start with a range of 2m and a hack value of 3.0, 3.5, or 4. This range is a lot, and would affect a lot more units than the intended 2 to 4. |
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| 10–13 ↗ | (On Diff #22341) | Problem is 2 meters is really nothing. Once we get collisions figured out again, barely no unit will overlap enough for it to have a noticeable affect. What about 3 meters and 4 (-4) hack? |
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| 10–13 ↗ | (On Diff #22341) | 2 meters might not overlap for some formations, but it is pretty substantial when units are bunched up. The onager's splash is 4 meters and that can hit like 12 units at once. |
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Build failure - The Moirai have given mortals hearts that can endure.
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Successful build - Chance fights ever on the side of the prudent.
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+ 2 attack range, +splash damage, and the same damage in a 1v1 compared to regular sword infantry.
This seems like a lot of buffs compared to regular swords, so I suggest a repeat time of 1.0, as the larger sword would surely be heavier.
This means the unit would lose on its own vs a regular sword, but win with a certain number fighting concurrently.
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Increase repeat time and prepare time by +33% to balance the splash damage and extra range. Suggested by @real_tabasco_sauce
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Build failure - The Moirai have given mortals hearts that can endure.
Link to build: https://jenkins.wildfiregames.com/job/macos-differential/7363/display/redirect
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Successful build - Chance fights ever on the side of the prudent.
Link to build: https://jenkins.wildfiregames.com/job/vs2015-differential/8452/display/redirect
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Nice.
This means the unit loses 1v1 to a regular champion, but gains a slight upper hand as long as 1 other unit is hit. So, the case where 2 or more other units are hit is when this unit will shine.
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Thanks!
In the future, I'd like to add special attacks for heroes and champions. For instance, a berserking flailing attack for the Gallic Fanatics or Thracian Rhomphaiaphoroi, which causes devastating area damage, but has to recharge between attacks. For now though, this patch is good enough. :)