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[gameplay] limit Seleucid choice to infantry champions
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Authored by Nescio on Jul 3 2020, 1:21 PM.

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rP23838: Make the Seleucid reform/traditional split affect infantry only.
Summary

This patch allows the Seleucids to train both cavalry and chariot champions regardless whether they opt for Macedonian-style or Roman-style infantry.
The current choice is ahistorical; see https://wildfiregames.com/forum/index.php?/topic/17651-crowd-sourced-civ-seleucids/page/9/&tab=comments#comment-394272

Test Plan

Agree this is an improvement.

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Nescio created this revision.Jul 3 2020, 1:21 PM
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Vulcan added a comment.Jul 3 2020, 1:29 PM

Successful build - Chance fights ever on the side of the prudent.

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borg- accepted this revision.Jul 4 2020, 6:31 PM
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Well, it seems more accurate historically, as discussed earlier on the forum. I have nothing against patching.

Are small changes, dont affect gameplay drastically. So i accept this patch.

This revision is now accepted and ready to land.Jul 4 2020, 6:31 PM

I'm questioning this tech somewhat... It seems vaguely like if we were to give Seleucids such a tech, we should also give Romans a marius-reform tech... And from what I gather Seleucids would have cataphracts anyways and scythed chariots are a bit of a 'novelty' unit that never really performed on the battlefield.

It feels vaguely like it would be more relevant to make this tech prevent the player from building Chariots and enabling all other champions, but I don't really have a handle on this.

Personally I dislike this technology choice too, but limiting it to infantry only seemed a lesser change and therefore more likely to be committed soon-ish than removing it entirely.

scythed chariots are a bit of a 'novelty' unit that never really performed on the battlefield.

They appear to have been a novelty c. 400 BC under the Persians; their actual use on the battlefield is well attested. Carthage and others may have had them too. In Hellenistic warfare heavy chariots were gradually superseded by war elephants.

They appear to have been a novelty c. 400 BC under the Persians; their actual use on the battlefield is well attested.

That doesn't necessarily mean there were effective though. Different debate I guess.


I'm fine with merging this since I feel it actually improves the tech by making the choice less of a tough call, and thus maybe actually making it more strategic.

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