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tweak unit pushing to prevent overlap
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Authored by marder on Sat, Mar 11, 2:11 PM.

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Reviewers
real_tabasco_sauce
wraitii
Group Reviewers
Restricted Owners Package(Owns No Changed Paths)
Balancing
Summary

Test Plan

Check if it looks and feels better now
Test for bugs (e.g. units getting pushed away from gather sites)

Event Timeline

marder created this revision.Sat, Mar 11, 2:11 PM

Successful build - Chance fights ever on the side of the prudent.

Link to build: https://jenkins.wildfiregames.com/job/vs2015-differential/7976/display/redirect

Successful build - Chance fights ever on the side of the prudent.

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marder requested review of this revision.Sat, Mar 11, 2:30 PM
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@marder thanks for making this patch. I think more pushing is a welcome change, as currently armies can squish together too much. I am not sure how much pushing is needed, but I am thinking that plenty of players might call it too much pushing. Perhaps 1.25 would be better for StaticExtension, but I have little familiarity with these values and I trust your judgement.

This revision is now accepted and ready to land.Sat, Mar 11, 11:58 PM

@marder thanks for making this patch. I think more pushing is a welcome change, as currently armies can squish together too much. I am not sure how much pushing is needed, but I am thinking that plenty of players might call it too much pushing. Perhaps 1.25 would be better for StaticExtension, but I have little familiarity with these values and I trust your judgement.

no problem :) Do note tho that you don't have to trust my judgement without testing it. Since it's just a xml change you can also play around with the values an see if you find a better combination.
I am not yet sure if this is much better than wat we currently have (Despite the values being quite different)

real_tabasco_sauce added a comment.EditedMon, Mar 13, 3:45 AM

Well, currently the unit pushing values allow for large armies to condense into blobs. When this happens, it's hard to tell how many units you are up against, so I think the increased pushing will be good.

Well, currently the unit pushing values allow for large armies to condense into blobs. When this happens, it's hard to tell how many units you are up against, so I think the increased pushing will be good.

Yeah that the intention :D But I would like people (not just you, but people in general) to test these values and then tell me if they are actually better.

wraitii requested changes to this revision.Mon, Mar 13, 10:00 AM
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I think you're likely to break some things here, because you're bumping everything at once, and with somewhat large changes. I would recommend just changing one thing at a time with pushing, because movement literally affects everything in the game.

If the problem at hand is mostly moving armies squishing, try playing with just the movingSpread. If the issue is at rest, try increasing the static extension to 1.
Additionally, consider just increasing the pressure strength to maybe push people to use formations (I believe units in formation don't exert pressure on each other).

Things to test:

  • Gathering around berries
  • Gathering around trees
  • Ships
  • Rams
  • Groups of units colliding with each other (see the unit pushing test map)

Unfortunately, the game tends to want units to be rather tight together for gathering but most people would rather armies be less-clumped. I don't think you can fix those two design goals at the moment.

(gonna request changes to avoid this being marked as accepted, but if you've done the due diligence of testing it can still go through, I just feel like this many changes seems dangerous)

binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/data/pathfinder.xml
17

This reverts https://code.wildfiregames.com/D4461, which sounds like it'll just reintroduce the issue (though maybe the other changes actually dodge it)

38–40

You're not respecting the 0.25 limit above, which sounds bad if the comment is accurate.

46–47

I think setting this to 0 will drastically effect the collision of units trying to clip through each other, and this sounds bad to me. Check the demo map.

This revision now requires changes to proceed.Mon, Mar 13, 10:00 AM

I think you're likely to break some things here, because you're bumping everything at once, and with somewhat large changes. I would recommend just changing one thing at a time with pushing, because movement literally affects everything in the game.

Yeah, this wasn't meant to be a last minuite change - I played around with different combinations for ~2h and thought this combination might be an alternative to the current values.
But as I said earlier: I really want people to test it and see how it feels, since it changes all values.

If the problem at hand is mostly moving armies squishing, try playing with just the movingSpread. If the issue is at rest, try increasing the static extension to 1.
Additionally, consider just increasing the pressure strength to maybe push people to use formations (I believe units in formation don't exert pressure on each other).

The issue is imo in all situations to a certain degree, hence me changing all values. I tried to find something where all of this:

Things to test:

  • Gathering around berries
  • Gathering around trees
  • Ships
  • Rams
  • Groups of units colliding with each other (see the unit pushing test map)

works, but ofc there are always trade-offs. especially ships and rams are not possible to separate.

(gonna request changes to avoid this being marked as accepted, but if you've done the due diligence of testing it can still go through, I just feel like this many changes seems dangerous)

No worries - might actually be good to test this in the community mod instead first. More testers there.

binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/data/pathfinder.xml
17

I tried gathering berries and I didn't notice it happening extensively.
Its really hard to predict what one value change will do, since they all depend on each other.

38–40

Seems like his value depends on all other values.
So with in this combination I would say the comment is false.
I mainly increased it to prevent long cycles of units pushing each other when static

46–47

I think setting this to 0 will drastically effect the collision of units trying to clip through each other, and this sounds bad to me. Check the demo map.

Sure, seems sensible. Testing on a wide scale would definitely be a good idea.

The issue is imo in all situations to a certain degree, hence me changing all values.

For what it's worth I don't think you can completely fix the 'problem' _and_ have smooth pathfinding. There's some level of abstraction to an RTS that makes movement somewhat unrealistic by necessity.
Just as an example, there was a thread on reddit recently about how people don't accurately count units in Age of Empires 2, because the archer units can bunch up a lot more than you'd expect. That's part of the skill of that game, and you can't really "fix" it, there's not really a problem.
Doesn't mean we can't improve on current values, but something to be aware of.

binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/data/pathfinder.xml
38–40

In that case the comment should probably be changed as well, maybe just remove the exact value if the math is annoying

marder added a comment.EditedMon, Mar 13, 10:53 AM

I tested the unit_pushing demo and I think it looks better. Only when tasked to build, units took a bit longer to find a good position - but no endless loop as far as I could see.

For what it's worth I don't think you can completely fix the 'problem' _and_ have smooth pathfinding. There's some level of abstraction to an RTS that makes movement somewhat unrealistic by necessity.
Just as an example, there was a thread on reddit recently about how people don't accurately count units in Age of Empires 2, because the archer units can bunch up a lot more than you'd expect. That's part of the skill of that game, and you can't really "fix" it, there's not really a problem.
Doesn't mean we can't improve on current values, but something to be aware of.

True - I just though that the current overlap is still a bit too much

Sure, seems sensible. Testing on a wide scale would definitely be a good idea.

The issue is imo in all situations to a certain degree, hence me changing all values.

For what it's worth I don't think you can completely fix the 'problem' _and_ have smooth pathfinding. There's some level of abstraction to an RTS that makes movement somewhat unrealistic by necessity.
Just as an example, there was a thread on reddit recently about how people don't accurately count units in Age of Empires 2, because the archer units can bunch up a lot more than you'd expect. That's part of the skill of that game, and you can't really "fix" it, there's not really a problem.
Doesn't mean we can't improve on current values, but something to be aware of.

Yes, I think there will be a good "middle ground" somwhere on the spectrum from too much clumping to pathfinder difficulties. I think its a good approach to start with something larger to notice the change and work backwards to find the right values.

real_tabasco_sauce added a comment.EditedMon, Mar 13, 6:47 PM

Yeah, as written, units can push each other off of resources. Ex. women on 1 bush, soldiers chopping 1 tree.
However, this is very brief.

Yeah, as written, units can push each other off of resources. Ex. women on 1 bush, soldiers chopping 1 tree.
However, this is very brief.

Reducing Static extension to 1.25 eliminates this issue, even with 8 workers on 1 tree, however there are still slight issues with stone and metal miners finding a spot, probably building also.
The mining issue doesn't seem to be a problem when Static Extension is down to 1.0.

real_tabasco_sauce added a comment.EditedMon, Mar 13, 8:24 PM

What do you two think of these:
1.2, 1.1, 3.0, 0.9, 0.65, 0.2, 0.7, 0.2

binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/data/pathfinder.xml
32

Setting this to 0.9 slows units down a lot due to pushing while moving (as they sort eventually into single file). 0.7 is reasonable, 0.6 pretty much eliminates the slowdown, and 0.65 slightly slows blobs down which is noticeable for bulkier units like eles, possibly providing a minuscule benefit to using formations.

Yeah trying to improve is certainly fair, as I said. I guess I'm saying it's probably better to end of the side of 'smooth, clumped-up pathfinding' over 'slow, spread-out'.

binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/data/pathfinder.xml
32

Keep in mind that the 'Pressure' parameters below probably affect this behaviour as well. You should compare the spread with different pressure values to know how they interact.

Yeah trying to improve is certainly fair, as I said. I guess I'm saying it's probably better to end of the side of 'smooth, clumped-up pathfinding' over 'slow, spread-out'.

Have you tried these values? I think they are pretty good, closer to the status quo, but perhaps there are still improvements to be made.

binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/data/pathfinder.xml
32

yes, increasing pressure back up to 0.9 increased the pushing slowdown. 0.7 allowed for essentially normal behavior.

Have you tried these values? I think they are pretty good, closer to the status quo, but perhaps there are still improvements to be made.

No I need to actually do it. I think I should get the time this week.

I tried these settings in DE. It's hard to see any "improvement" without more testing, but I see no new negative effects. I'll test them some more.

I tried these settings in DE. It's hard to see any "improvement" without more testing, but I see no new negative effects. I'll test them some more.

Which ones did you test @wowgetoffyourcellphone ?

I just tested this again I I can still say that I don't see *huge* problems emerging with these values. Units tend to push each other away from resources a bit more, but the normally find a better position quickly, so no endless loops.
This could be further reduced by increasing <MinimalForce>0.3</MinimalForce> up to <MinimalForce>0.35</MinimalForce> or even higher.

Generally I can see a difference on the Unit pushing demo map - the units just feel less compressible and tend to keep more distance.

What do you two think of these:
1.2, 1.1, 3.0, 0.9, 0.65, 0.2, 0.7, 0.2

I have also tried these values and they feel a lot closer to our current values. They seem to give units a bit more space, but they still feel relative "clumpy".


But generally hard to decide what feels better.

I did some actual testing -> I maintain my 'needs revision'.

  • The static extension is too high. Some units get stuck in a loop of 'gather, get pushed away, go back to gather' too often on berries and things like that.
  • I like the changes to the movingSpread factor, that seems to have good behaviour.
  • I dislike the changes to the pressure system. It basically removes the 'bog down' thing which is a feature IMO. I'd rather lower both values by 0.1, given the increased MovingSpread.
  • MinimalForce comment is indeed correct, so the new value must be < 0.25. Take two units, click them to move to a specific point, they will overlap and not un-overlap. This is broken.

Overall I think you should keep the MovingSpread tweak, do a slight update to Pressure, and see how much you can tweak static extension before it gets problematic for berries and such.

I did some actual testing -> I maintain my 'needs revision'.

  • The static extension is too high. Some units get stuck in a loop of 'gather, get pushed away, go back to gather' too often on berries and things like that.
  • I like the changes to the movingSpread factor, that seems to have good behaviour.
  • I dislike the changes to the pressure system. It basically removes the 'bog down' thing which is a feature IMO. I'd rather lower both values by 0.1, given the increased MovingSpread.
  • MinimalForce comment is indeed correct, so the new value must be < 0.25. Take two units, click them to move to a specific point, they will overlap and not un-overlap. This is broken.

Overall I think you should keep the MovingSpread tweak, do a slight update to Pressure, and see how much you can tweak static extension before it gets problematic for berries and such.

By "Bog down" is that the slowdown when units clump while moving? If this is already slightly in effect currently, I think players will dislike increasing it. I think we should avoid introducing any sluggish movement as much as possible.

By "Bog down" is that the slowdown when units clump while moving? If this is already slightly in effect currently, I think players will dislike increasing it. I think we should avoid introducing any sluggish movement as much as possible.

Yes, it's that behaviour. The current settings are quite strong, the diff settings are rather weak, I suggest maybe lowering them a bit from SVN

(also my comment above applies to the diff, not your revised numbers)

By "Bog down" is that the slowdown when units clump while moving? If this is already slightly in effect currently, I think players will dislike increasing it. I think we should avoid introducing any sluggish movement as much as possible.

Yes, it's that behaviour. The current settings are quite strong, the diff settings are rather weak, I suggest maybe lowering them a bit from SVN

(also my comment above applies to the diff, not your revised numbers)

yeah i think 0.65 is the ideal middle ground for moving spread, since with high pressure there is only a subtle "bog down". Also with this spread value, units don't immediately string out when pathfinding.

my current values:
0.2 0.1 0.3 0.9 0.65 0.2 0.9 0